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ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« on: February 03, 2014, 07:34:44 pm »
I discovered ACTI's brand new E77 camera for sale today for $280.

  • 10 (ten!) megapixels @ 6 frames per second
  • Outdoor dome
  • Infrared
  • WDR
  • PoE
  • 101 degree horizontal view angle
  • Dome is 3-axis if the datasheet is correct (quote: Viewing Angle Adjustment | Pan: 0~350; Tilt: 17~163; Rotate: 0~350)

It may cost nearly twice as much as a Hikvision 3MP mini bullet or dome, but I'm thinking the resolution should more than make up for it.

I ordered two and will review and post full res sample pics when they arrive.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 08:40:45 pm »
Arrived today.




Will post more pics later.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 09:07:17 pm »
Don't forget to post videos (not stills) and night vids too!
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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 09:13:50 pm »
Sure thing.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 09:14:19 pm »
The frame rate specs for the cam are a bit confusing.  It lists 30 fps for 1080p and below, and 6 fps for everything above 1080p.  That seems like a pretty sudden drop in frame rate capability - going from 2MP to 3MP drops you from 30 fps max to 6 fps max. 

When you get a chance, can you verify if that spec is correct?

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 09:31:11 pm »
Yes, that spec is correct, unfortunately.

Options for primary stream are:

3648x2736 @ 1, 3, 6 FPS
3648x2160 @ 1, 3, 6 FPS  (cropped - bottom of frame removed)
2592x1944 @ 1, 3, 6 FPS
2048x1536 @ 1, 3, 6 FPS
1920x1080 @ 1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 30 FPS (cropped - differently - this time top and bottom of frame removed so it is more centered)
1280x720  @ 1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 30 FPS (cropped - same as 1920x1080)
640x480 @ 1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 30 FPS

Resolution options for secondary stream are:

1280x720 @ 1, 3, 5 FPS
640x480 @ 1, 3, 5, 10, 15 FPS
320x240 @ 1, 3, 5, 10, 15 FPS

* If primary stream resolution is larger than 1920x1080, the secondary stream frame rate options all change to 1, 3, 6

H.264 and MJPEG are options for both streams at all resolutions and frame rates.

Highest selectable video bit rate is only 6 Mbps.

I-frame interval is only available when using variable bit rate encoding.

RTSP URL rtsp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:7070/track1


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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 10:15:48 pm »
Jpeg images can be obtained from the primary stream at http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/cgi-bin/encoder?USER=xxx&PWD=xxx&SNAPSHOT

Each image seems to be about 1 MB and usually takes 700-900 ms to transfer though I've seen that go as high as 1500 ms so basically you can get about 1 frame per second out of this if requesting snapshots repeatedly.

Will go install one outside in about an hour.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 10:26:47 pm »
Here is a short clip to demonstrate the frame rate.  The picture is noisy since it is indoors and I limited its exposure time to 1/60th of a second to prevent strong blur.


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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2014, 01:50:37 am »
Install pic.  It is over on the right between the beehive and the lamp.  The dome is 3-axis so I was able to mount it on the wall just fine.


Closeup:


Sample snapshot:


More snapshots demonstrating Digital Noise Reduction, Contrast, and WDR (I don't see a difference with WDR on or off!):

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72769267/ACTI%20e77%20Image%20Settings.zip



I'll have to see how it does in a wider variety of lighting conditions, but so far I'm reasonably happy with it.  I'm pretty sure the sensor is cheating somehow to call itself 10 Megapixels.  If you look at sharp edges, they appear more than a bit blocky.

Going to install the other one this weekend
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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 02:23:01 am »
So...what is your gut instinct on this camera to date? Yea? Or Nay?
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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 05:10:48 am »
This was the first dome camera I've installed.

Mounting and pointing it was easy.  Two minor issues, easily resolved.  First was that I needed longer screws to mount it through my siding (unless I wanted to mount it "to" the siding).  Second, my cat6 cable's end was a bit too large to fit through the strain relief intended for the network cable.  Fortunately ACTI included a second strain relief designed for attaching conduit directly to the dome and I was able to use that instead to provide a weatherproof seal.  (this is the fat black part sticking out the bottom of the dome in the closeup pic above).

Image quality seems very similar to the Hikvision mini bullet, including a tendency for a lot of noise at night unless you use a really slow exposure time.  The default exposure limit is 1/5 second which is kind of ridiculous.

Blurry car at 1/5 exposure


Less blurry car at 1/15 exposure (the second slowest exposure), but noise is already starting to become a problem despite noise reduction being enabled.


I'm finding that light snowfall doesn't appear as strongly as I expected.  This is probably because it is a bit more sheltered than my other cams and snow wasn't getting as close to the lens.

Manual video record of snow falling - recorded with direct to disk


Note the absolutely terrible on-screen display from the camera.  You can't make it bigger, so the best I could do was to add the OSD 4 times in 3 different colors (2 at the top and 2 at the bottom) and HOPE that it is legible in recordings.  You pretty much have to zoom in to read the timestamp, which I imagine means you can't read it on youtube :)

Note also that digital noise reduction is ON in these videos.  If DNR is off, the noise is beyond horrible.  I'd show you a video clip, but Blue Iris has trouble decoding the video. 1/15 exposure is the second slowest exposure, too!

So...what is your gut instinct on this camera to date? Yea? Or Nay?

Yea

For the sale price on the site that shall not be named, anyway.  If it had cost $350 or $400 each, I wouldn't have bought any.

But as it is, for about $100 more than a Hikvision DS-2CD2132-I, I get a 3-axis dome with a similar view angle and a 10 MP sensor which is basically the highest resolution available in any IP camera.  The 6 fps limit isn't really a problem for me.  I set all my cameras at or below 5 fps in Blue Iris anyway -- except for this one which I run at 6 FPS.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 05:25:02 am »
Noise reduction ON - 1/15 exposure


Noise reduction OFF - 1/15 exposure


You really do need to view these at full resolution to see just how bad it is without noise reduction.

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 07:11:12 pm »
Digital noise reduction really seems to make the image more blocky, at least at native resolution.

With:


Without:


(click the thumbnails for full resolution)

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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 07:29:53 pm »
Yeah, 'without' is much sharper.

Still, the daylight pics look great, though you will have to wait a few weeks (couple of months) before you'll be able to see how it looks with 'colours' :)

I think night time video is what it is, just like any IR camera. Lighting is everything and even with extra IR's, it's just going to be a novelty, rather than a solution for capturing detail that is needed to id something/someone. Of course. better than nothing I suppose.

I'm still a proponent of using high power lights to turn on when motion is detected and using the camera in day mode. And with a wide angle, you choose either getting a better overall view with low detail, opposed to small view with high detail.

Two 1Mp. cameras with different lenses will end up being less expensive and more effective (with proper lighting).
1x Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-IS 3Mp
1x Ratingsecu R-H241N 1Mp Wireless
1x Ratingsecu R-H536NV 2.0 Mp with motorized panning bracket.
1x Ratingsecu R-N900Q4 1.0 Mp
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Re: ACTI E77 10mp 6fps $280 today
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2014, 08:20:03 pm »
Daytime videos:

Truck driving by:


Snow falling from tree:

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